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Contents 1 Concerns re neutrality of category of "Spain" 2 Request for assistance: hare coursing 3 Emery Molyneux: Translation of non-English terms 4 Bachillerato 5 Problems with Ataúlfo Argenta 6 List of political and geographic subdivisions by total area 7 Latin Europe 8 National Library of Catalonia 9 Prince of Bourbon 10 Question on scope 11 Spanish help on Gyromitra esculenta 12 Template:Catalan language 13 Rate 14 Requesting assistance on Lope de Vega article 15 Article assessment: Diaz 16 Establishing notability of two spanish articles - Celia en el mundo and Cristina Cruz Mínguez and Celia en el colegio 17 AfD nomination of Lavandeira 18 Satyr 19 War of the Spanish Succession 20 Articles flagged for cleanup 21 Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme 22 Need etymology assistance 23 Los Valdecolmenas 24 Panzer I Article A-Class Review 25 Malpaís 26 Panzer I going through FAC 27 Missing Spanish politicians 28 A-class review for AMX-30E now open! 29 Spanish Laws 30 Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Spain 31 GA Reassessment of Trabancos River 32 Image needs replacement - Foz-Calanda 33 Tenerife 34 Spain-related articles needing geographical coordinates 34.1 Why add coordinates? 34.2 How can I do it? 34.3 Spain articles needing geographic coordinates 35 Added WP:Spain template to Captain Alatriste 36 A-Class review for Revolt of the Comuneros. 37 Hernando de Soto 38 Moscow Gold Translation 39 Manuel de Godoy de Bassano y Crowe 40 Spanish surname policy discussion 41 Bartolomé Esteban Murillo 42 Special Branch? 43 submarines General Sanjuro and General Mola 44 Problems with stub templates for Spanish regions 45 AfD of School Day of Non-violence and Peace 46 January 2009 Mediterranean storm 47 José María Gironella 48 Coordinators' working group 49 Personal Names question 50 Article alerts 51 Asturian language name 52 Valencia historical trains/trams 53 Talk:Moors # Seensawsee's edits # The facts 54 Beltran de Cetina 55 User calling himself WikiProjectSpain 56 Roman Catholicism in Spain and History of Roman Catholicism in Spain 57 TVEi on Sky Digital (reference main TVEi article) 58 AFD on (real? hoax?) Spanish families 59 Proposal for a 200-WikiProject contest 60 GA Sweeps invitation

[edit] Concerns re neutrality of category of "Spain"

I would like to raise some concerns about the neutrality of the category of "Spain" and "Spanish" in light of cultural/national pluralism on the Iberian peninsula. The Spanish nation is relatively recent and its sovereignty is contested. Nothing and no one before the 15th century can be accurately attributed to Spain and many members of autonomous communities today either do not consider themselves Spanish at all or only as a secondary or administrative designation. "Iberian" is a more neutral designation, referring to a geographic scope rather than the projects of nationalism, whether by the Spanish state or members of autonomous communities. Recapitulating the project of the Franco dictatorship to unify Spain under Castilian norms (in his case by cultural genocide) serves the political agenda of the Partido Popular and is therefore not impartial. "Iberian" recognizes the plural ways of life within the borders of modern Spain without privileging one group over another. For example, one in five citizens of Spain speak an Iberian mother tongue other than Castilian. Thus there is no such thing as "the Spanish language" but rather Castilian, Catalan, Euskara, Galician, Aragonese, Aranese, etc. as Iberian languages (which of course includes Portuguese). "Spain" and "Spanish" should be used to refer to aspects of the nation state, citizenship, etc, but not to cultural practices. Sangderuc (talk) 00:08, 3 February 2008 (UTC)Sangderuc

However recent the Spanish "nation" may be, the Spanish empire or kingdom dates from the years of the Reconquista, or possibly earlier (i.e. the Visigothic kingdoms preceding Muslim rule). The question is -- at what point did some, if not all, begin to see Iberia as a region that had a common cultural or political heritage and destiny? IMHO, this point clearly passed more than 1,000 years ago. Spain is not defined by simple geography, as is Iberia. Spain is a tradition dating back to Pelayo (an Asturian!); Spain is an empire that ruled much of the Americas; Spain is, if not in your opinion a going concern, at least a historical fact. Independence-minded people in specific Spanish regions share one thing in common with Franco and his ilk: the mistaken belief that "Spanish" and "Castilian" are synonyms. They are not. The latter is a subset of the former, and the former implies pluralism, just like "British" and "German" and "Italian" do. One does not have to believe in centralized government, Castilian superiority or "cultural genocide" to acknowledge that the various peoples of the Iberian Peninsula, excepting (sometimes) Portugal, are, despite their individual identities, tied together by cultural and historical threads stronger than those that bind them to the rest of Europe, or to the world at large; and the generally accepted term for those cultural and political bands is "Spain". _{``` W</sub> i k i <sub>W</sub> i s t a h <sub>```} 01:36, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Request for assistance: hare coursing

The article hare coursing includes the following at hare coursing#In other countries:

"According to the UK Government's Burns Inquiry[9], open coursing (UK style) takes place in Spain and park coursing (Irish style) takes place in Portugal. Coursing also takes place in Pakistan. Hare coursing is illegal in most other European countries.[17]"

Can anyone in this wikiproject find any sources describing the existence, notability or debate of hare coursing in Spain? (perhaps better known as hunting hares with galgos not guns). Thank you. MikeHobday (talk) 11:55, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Emery Molyneux: Translation of non-English terms

Help would be much appreciated in translating the following book title appearing in the article which is not in English:

• "Islas estas descubrio Pedro Sarmiento de Gamboa por la corona de Castilla y Leon desde el año 1568 llamolas Islas de Jesus aurque vulgarmente las llaman Islas de Salomon". Is "These islands claimed by Pedro Sarmiento de Gamboa for the crown of Castile and León from the year 1568 are the Jesus Islands, commonly called the Solomon Islands" an accurate translation?

Please respond on the article's talk page. Thanks very much! — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 04:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bachillerato

Hi all -- I'm translating an article from the Spanish Wikipedia and I'm trying to figure out which page to link the concept of Bachillerato. The Spanish wiki page's interwiki link goes to the Baccalaureate disambiguation page. Is there a page that covers the specifics of the Bachillerato and what it entails? I read over the article on the European Baccalaureate for EU member states, but it doesn't seem to be right. --Mûĸĸâĸûĸâĸû 07:55, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Problems with Ataúlfo Argenta

I just came across this article which is definitely not in compliance with verifiability. It is full of original research and the repetition of rumours verging on slander. It has been the subject of persistent attempts by the single purpose account Tilleadh to revert the removal of the unsourced, unverifiable, and potentially biased information. The subject died 50 years ago (although his son is still alive). It could use some expert attention. Many thanks. Voceditenore (talk) 12:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] List of political and geographic subdivisions by total area

Hi, I'd appreciates some help in adding the Provinces of Spain to this list. Cheers! bd2412 T 21:39, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Latin Europe

Hello WikiProject Spain! There is a vote going on at Latin Europe that might interest you. Please everyone, do come and give your opinion and votes. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 20:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] National Library of Catalonia

The short article about the National Library of Catalonia was created after Biblioteca de Catalunya, which already existed. The two articles should be merged, but which one should remain -- A or B?

• A -- Biblioteca de Catalunya --> National Library of Catalonia?
• B -- National Library of Catalonia --> Biblioteca de Catalunya?

If there is no objection, the resulting choice will likely become A -- and the Catalan-entitled article will be folded into National Library of Catalonia at the end of April. Are there any objections? --Tenmei (talk) 14:06, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Prince of Bourbon

Hello Wikiproject Spain. I recently found the above article through the wikification drive. It looks to me suspiciously like original research, or even a hoax, but as I am not that familiar with the Spanish Monarchy I'd rather leave it to someone who is to review. Regards, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 13:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Question on scope

Would John McCaa be considered in the scope of this project? Basketball110 14:51, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spanish help on Gyromitra esculenta

This text has been in the article on Gyromitra esculenta:

In some countries such as Spain, especially in the eastern Pyrenees, they are traditionally considered a delicacy, and many people report consuming them for many years with no ill effects. Despite this, all false morels are listed as hazardous in official mushroom lists published by the Catalan Government in Spain.

It would be great to get some sourcing, clarification or correction. Any help on the matter much appreciated. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:25, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Catalan language

Cross-posting to Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance), Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spain, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Catalan-speaking Countries

Template:Catalan language has been tagged for speedy deletion, using a template that (as I understand it) is supposed to indicate what should be used instead; no template is indicated to be used instead. I had some back and forth with User:MZMcBride, who tagged it, but I'm afraid that all that revealed is that he and I aren't seeing eye-to-eye.

I haven't been working in Catalan language and culture lately, but this template was once quite heavily used. We created it because there were articles where {{Catalan-speaking world}} was arguably too extensive. Not to put too fine a point on it, Spanish nationalists objected (reasonably, I think) to articles about topics like phonology linking (via that template) to articles about Catalan government agencies, Christmas traditions, etc.. I suspect that what has happened over time someone (probably a Catalan nationalist) has put {{Catalan-speaking world}} back on the contentious articles, and that the template that is now proposed for deletion might be more appropriate on those articles.

But, since he doesn't even say what template he considers to be an acceptable substitute, I feel like I'm wrestling with a fog. Perhaps someone else can do a better job of sorting this out. - Jmabel | Talk 19:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Rate

• Could somebody rate this page - Giourkas Seitaridis. The-Real-ZEUS (talk) 02:38, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Looks like pretty obvious "start" class, but has little to do with Spain. The fact that a Greek footballer plays for Atleti doesn't really make him a Spanish topic. - Jmabel | Talk 17:28, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting assistance on Lope de Vega article

Greetings, members of WikiProject Spain! I'm putting out a request for any interested members of the Spain, Theatre, and/or Biography (Arts and Entertainment) Projects to provide some assistance with the article on Lope de Vega. The tone of the much of the text still seems to be from the 1911 Britannica; I believe the article could benefit from the incorporation of material from some additional references, along with the documentation of those references on the article page. "Lope" is definitely a notable figure, with articles listed at 29 "Other Language" interwikis, as of 6 April 2008, and listed as a Featured-Article on Spanish Wikipedia. There should be no shortage of references available :)

I'm requesting assistance at this time, because another editor recently (in my opinion mistakenly and/or inappropriately) deleted much of the article text as being in violation of Wikipedia:Verifiability; I believe this should not have happened, and as of 6 April have restored the deleted text; but the occurence does underscore the fact that the article could use some updating and improved referencing; hopefully by a collaboration of editors.

Thanks, Lini (talk) 02:23, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Article assessment: Diaz

The WikiProject Spain banner on Talk:Diaz shows null values for article assessment. The article has changed substantially and I would encourage your revisiting this banner and providing assessment values for it. Thanks. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 09:53, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Establishing notability of two spanish articles - Celia en el mundo and Cristina Cruz Mínguez and Celia en el colegio

Anyone familiar with any of this material and can source it or otherwise comment on its notability? I am not familiar with much of spanish culture...Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:22, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Lavandeira

An article on a Spanish subject, Lavandeira, has been listed for deletion. I have included in this nomination the articles Vermella and A Viridiña. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lavandeira. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? JohnCD (talk) 16:32, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

• Update - articles deleted at the author's request. JohnCD (talk) 21:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Satyr

Have you replaced User:SatyrTN's User:SatyrBot? We at WP:CHICAGO are looking for a replacement since he is no longer active. Please respond at my talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:48, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] War of the Spanish Succession

Is up for Featured Article Review. Please take a look and see if you are interested in helping it come up to current standards. Thank you. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 01:34, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Articles flagged for cleanup

Currently, 1595 articles assigned to this project, or 10.1%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 18 June 2008.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 12:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

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[edit] Need etymology assistance

Can we get some help regarding an etymology question at Talk:Andrés Quintana Roo? Thank you, Badagnani (talk) 23:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Los Valdecolmenas

I found a block of Spanish text in Los Valdecolmenas so I tried to translate it. My Spanish isn't terrific, but I think now it is more understandable to the non-Spanish speaker. Could someone please check my translation and let me know how I did?--omnipotence407 (talk) 11:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Panzer I Article A-Class Review

The A-Class Review for Panzer I has been reopened. Your comments are welcomed! JonCatalán (talk) 00:04, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Malpaís

Malpaís (landform) is a stub; please help to expand it. --Una Smith (talk) 22:26, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Panzer I going through FAC

The article Panzer I is currently going through a featured article candidacy. Your comments are welcomed, and your support as well! Thanks! JonCatalán (talk) 04:31, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Spanish politicians

Hi I've created a list of missing politicians at Wikipedia:WikiProject Spain/Missing politicians. I have howwver started a few but its probably more sensible to start them in sections rather than stubbing the whole lot in one go. Could anybody please help expand some of these articles by translating from Spanish wikipedia and help with starting the missing ones thanks:

Gerardo Abad Conde (expanded earlier) Buenaventura Abarzuza Ferrer Fernando Abril Martorell Fátima Aburto Baselga Manuel Ángel Aguilar Belda Rosa Aguilar Alberto Aguilera Manuel Aguirre de Tejada Pedro Agustín Girón Elías Ahúja y Andría Santiago Alba Bonifaz Víctor Alba José Luis Albareda y Sezde Juan Manuel Albendea Pabón Cristina Alberdi Vicente Albero José María Albiñana Núria Albó Gil Álvarez de Albornoz Felipe Alcaraz Alberto Alcocer y Ribacoba Alejandro Agag Jesús Alique Luis Almarcha Hernández Joaquín Almunia Gabriel Alomar Demetrio Alonso Castrillo Eduardo Alonso Colmenares Alonso III Fonseca Manuel Alonso Martínez Alejandro Alonso Núñez José Antonio Alonso Juan Alvarado y del Saz

Amador Álvarez Vicente Álvarez Areces Saturnino Álvarez Bugallal José María Álvarez Mendizábal Florentino Álvarez Mesa Horacio Álvarez Mesa Ramón Álvarez Valdés Julio Álvarez del Vayo Fernando Álvarez de Miranda José Álvarez de Toledo y Acuña Pedro Álvarez de Toledo y Colonna Eloísa Álvarez Ismael Álvarez Magdalena Álvarez Melquíades Álvarez Diego de Alvear y Ponce de León Óscar Alzaga Andrés Amado Reygondaud Ángeles Amador Pascual Amat Mario Amilivia Emilio Amuedo Ana Rosa Migoya de Diego Iñaki Anasagasti

Rafael Andrade Navarrete Josep Andreu Domingo Etelvina Andreu Antonio Carpio Quintero Antonio Flores de Lemus Antonio Landeta y Álvarez-Valdés Graciano Antuña Jesús Aparicio-Bernal Francisco Aparicio y Ruiz Antonio Aparisi Guijarro Pedro Antonio de Aragón Carlos Aragonés Elviro Aranda Álvarez Conde de Aranda Luis Araquistáin Eugenio Arbones Pere Ardiaca José María de Areilza Javier Arenas Manuel Argüelles Argüelles Miguel Arias Cañete Gabriel Arias-Salgado Francisco Arias Solís Diego Arias de Miranda Rafael Arias-Salgado Juan Armada y Losada Luis Armiñán Pérez Jordi Arquer (expanded earlier)

♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦ ^"Talk"? 12:49, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I've been working along similar lines recently. Can I ask that you or others make sure that you add the appropriate categories e.g. Category:Members of the Congress of Deputies (Spain) and also that for MPs you link to the appropriate electoral district [[1]] rather than the province. Thanks, Valenciano (talk) 15:09, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A-class review for AMX-30E now open!

An A-class review for the article AMX-30E has been opened. Any and all editors are invited to participate! Thank you! JonCatalán (talk) 06:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spanish Laws

I've noticed there seems to be a lack of articles covering topics in Spanish law. I've just done a fair bit of work on the Historical Memory Law but perhaps other articles could be started on issues like Spanish Citizenship Law. Saluton (talk) 14:23, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Spain

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[edit] GA Reassessment of Trabancos River

Just a note to let the project know that Trabancos River has been placed on hold following its GA Sweeps Review, which can be found here. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 18:11, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image needs replacement - Foz-Calanda

Hello all...

An image used in the article, specifically Image:Foz 1001.jpg, has a little bit of a licensing issue. The image was uploaded back when the rules around image uploading were less restrictive. It is presumed that the uploader was willing to license the picture under the GFDL license but was not clear in that regard. As such, the image, while not at risk of deletion, is likely not clearly licensed to allow for free use in any future use of this article. If anyone has an image that can replace this, or can go take one and upload it, it would be best.

You have your mission, take your camera and start clicking.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 00:23, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tenerife

Hola! I seriously need as much help as possible at translating Tenerife. I came across it a minute ago and was shocked to see how poor and underdeveloped the article was, and then saw it on spanish wikipedia and had to do something about it. Please also let anybody you know who speaks spanish about it, it is a core article and should quite rightly have a full article. Anybody who sees this please consider contrubiting to the translation. Thanks. Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 23:26, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spain-related articles needing geographical coordinates

Based on a search of Wikipedia's articles, I've found some Spain-related articles that I believe are about places, and could usefully have geographical coordinates added.

The articles in question are listed in Category:Spain articles missing geocoordinate data. At the time of writing, some examples included:

1. European Northern Observatory
2. Malejos
3. Mugaritz
4. Orexa
5. Orio
6. Santimamiñe
7. Sierra Morena

...and there are many more, as well. At the time of posting this notice, there were 1221 articles in this category needing geographical coordinates.

[edit] Why add coordinates?

By adding coordinates, a Wikipedia reader can easily view the location on a street map, nautical chart, topographic map, by satellite photo, realtime weather map, and in many other ways. Coordinate data makes an article eventually appear in various services such as Google Maps' Wikipedia overlay, Google Earth, and Wikipedia's own internal map service. Coordinate data also helps readers looking for geographically-based data, such as locations near a reference point, or related information.

[edit] How can I do it?

The articles are all marked with {{coord missing}} tags, which need to be replaced with {{coord}} tags that contain the location's latitude/longitude coordinates; or you might be able to add coordinates to an existing infobox. You can find out how to do this at the Wikipedia:Geocoding how-to for WikiProject members. Please let me know if this is useful, or if you have any questions! -- The Anome (talk) 09:15, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spain articles needing geographic coordinates

Update: Spanish articles needing geocoords now have their own category. 1,122 articles in Category:Spain articles missing geocoordinate data do not have geographic coordinates. Coords are useful for making the article appear on Google Maps & many other mapping services; and they allow our users to click through to see the article subject location on a map. There's a short guide to on how to add geocodes to articles ... it really is very easy to do. I hope you'll take some time to ensure that Spain is as well represented as it can be on wikipedia by fixing up the listed articles. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:30, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Added WP:Spain template to Captain Alatriste

Wasn't sure where else to put this. The author is a part of this wikiproject and the characters of this series of book are all Spanish, with most of the action occurring in Spain. I figured it should be attached to this project. 166.122.98.137 (talk) 21:11, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] A-Class review for Revolt of the Comuneros.

An A-Class peer review has been opened for Revolt of the Comuneros. Any input would be appreciated; thanks. This article was originally based on a translation of a Spanish Wikipedia Featured Article, for what it's worth. Speaking of Spanish Wikipedia... I don't know how many translators are about here, but any help on moving the associated bio pages over to English Wikipedia would also be greatly appreciated. For example, compare Pedro Girón (currently a redlink) with es:Pedro Girón, or Francisco Maldonado with es:Francisco Maldonado. That's going to be a fair amount of work, and I haven't even really straightened out the list article yet. SnowFire (talk) 06:58, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Hernando de Soto

I need some help here to standardize usage in an article. When making subsequent references to the Spanish explorer Hernando de Soto, should he be refered to as De Soto, de Soto or simply Soto?

Thanks for your help. JodyB _talk 22:11, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Moscow Gold Translation

I have recently finished translation the article Moscow Gold from its (featured) version in Spanish. I added the article to WikiProject Spain - if there are any proofreaders available willing to work with the article, that would be great.--CarlosPatiño (talk) 07:31, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Manuel de Godoy de Bassano y Crowe

Just a heads up here: I found a new article created on 4 November 2008 by Fjmoralesroca with the rather convoluted title: Manuel de Godoy de Bassano y Crowe (*Paris, October 31, 1828 +April 14, 1896), 3rd Prince of Godoy of Bassano, 3rd Count of Castillo Fiel. It consisted solely of random, unformatted, unreferenced text and appears to refer to the same person as the subject of Manuel de Godoy di Bassano y Crowe, 3rd Prince of Godoy of Bassano. I redirected it to the pre-existing article and copied the text of the new one to Talk:Manuel de Godoy di Bassano y Crowe, 3rd Prince of Godoy of Bassano in case it might prove useful to those trying to expand the article. I also put the {{WPBiography}} (WikiProject Royalty) and {{WikiProject Spain}} banners on it. Note that the same user has also recently heavily edited an article about the father of the subject: Manuel de Godoy di Bassano y Tudó, 2nd Prince of Godoy of Bassano. I've also put the project banners on that. Voceditenore (talk) 07:33, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Spanish surname policy discussion

A discussion is under way here on how to style Spanish surnames after the lead sentence of biographies. The outcome is likely to become Wikipedia policy. Interested editors are invited to comment. Unconventional (talk) 16:25, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Bartolomé Esteban Murillo

On Talk:Museo del Prado I came across this question about Bartolomé Esteban Murillo. I have no answer but I replied with some wikilinks and that I would post a note here, in case anyone has more information. The questioner was asking about the history of the painting Image:La Inmaculada de Soult, 1678, Bartolomé E. Murillo.jpg. -84user (talk) 19:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Special Branch?

I'm working on a biography of a Spaniard, and a source keeps referring to the a "Special Branch" that would have existed during the Second Spanish Republic, but I can't find what organization (some kind of police force) this was, and what it's Spanish name was, or how to link to it. If anyone can help, I'd appreciate a note on my talk page as I don't have time to watch this page. Thanks, Murderbike (talk) 22:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Gosh, one more question, sources keep referring to a place called Alto Llobregat in addition to Baix Llobregat, but I can't figure where it would be. Murderbike (talk) 02:25, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] submarines General Sanjuro and General Mola

Archimede class submarine and Spanish submarine C-3 contradict each other, the first says that Archimede was renamed General Sanjuro and Torricelli was renamed General Mola, whilst the latter says that Archimede was renamed General Mola and Torricelli was renamed General Sanjuro. This contradiction requires attention. 76.66.195.190 (talk) 11:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Problems with stub templates for Spanish regions

Hi all -

there have been some problems recently with a few stub templates relating to Spanish regions. A stub template for the Canary Islands ({{CanaryIslands-geo-stub}}) was upmerged to the main Spain geography stub category, even though they were big enough for their own categories (which is, of course, a subcategory of the Spanish national equivalent). Similarly, generic and geo stub types for Spain's Plazas de soberanía were turned into redirects to the equivalent Spanish national templates. In this case, this didn't remove articles from specific Plaza de soberanía subcategories, as the templates were upmerged. The templates were, however, doubly-upmerged, and though the articles remained in the Spanish stub categories, they disappeared from the equivalent North African ones. The editors who did this were anon IP editors.

Also, at some point earlier this year a large number of spanish regional stub templates were converted from the standard boilerplate text to use the asbox template. The asbox template was only ever an experiment, intended to be used on just one or two stub types. As it happens, asbox was largely abandoned as a system for making stub templates, since it proved to be less useful than the former coding. Again, the editors whoi did this were at anon IPs - ones in the same range as the recent changed (a series of IPs indicating the location was in Spain).

It seems very likely that the anons involved may be regular contributors to the Spanish language Wikipedia. If anyone here has any idea who they may be, please can you gently tell them that the changes are not appreciated. In the case of the changes to the Canary islands stubs, the very slow server queue in recent times means that null edits were necessary to get all the articles back in the right category - something I've just spent the last three quarters of an hour doing. A tiny template change can take a long time to undo... Grutness...wha? 08:38, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] AfD of School Day of Non-violence and Peace

The article DENIP about "School Day of Non-violence and Peace" has been nominated for deletion here. Could any Wikipedians in Spain offer information on how notable this holiday is (or is not...I don't know anything about it)? Politizer ^talk/_contribs 17:09, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] January 2009 Mediterranean storm

Hi. Just letting you know that I have created an article on the ongoing storm that has hit parts of France. Thanks, D.M.N. (talk) 14:23, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] José María Gironella

Can someone do a quick translation from the Spanish article? It's pretty basic, but so's my Spanish, and my time's limited. Also, a little extra monitoring never hurts. Thanks. --KP Botany (talk) 06:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Coordinators' working group

Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.

All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — Delievered by §hepBot (Disable) on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 06:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Personal Names question

Sorry guys, is there a way to know if a person was born with a Spanish name or a regional name or a combination of both? I mean, e.g., ... Ricardo Zamora Martínez or Ricard Zamora i Martínez or Ricard Zamora Martínez; Xabier Alonso Olano or Javier Alonso Olano or Xabier Alontso Olano... --necronudist (talk) 13:13, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Given Names can be changed to any language as for example: Miguel, Miquel and Mikel.... or Eugenio, Uxio, Eugeni... depending on the use given by the person, it is even legal to change from one name to the other in the registry. On the Other hands surnames are not change whatsoever (at least in this times) thus you can find someone called Miguel Echevarria (Correct Basque Etxeberria) going to live to the Basque Country and just changing his name to Mikel Echevarria.

[edit] Article alerts

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[edit] Asturian language name

I've noticed that some users have removed the Asturian language name from Asturian geo articles. Examples include: Besullo (Allande), Gedrez, Prahúa, etc. Is it inappropriate to include it within the article, especially when the Asturian language wikipedia article spells the place name differently than the English language and Spanish language wiki articles? --Rosiestep (talk) 23:06, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I would say it's completely appropriate to add it since that's a local name and Astur-Leonese has some degree of legal recognition in the relevant communities. Valenciano (talk) 22:18, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Valencia historical trains/trams

I have uploaded several scanned slides on the regional meter gauge trains around Valencia. These pictures where taken in 1981 and 1987. See (Commons:Category:Ferrocarrils de la Generalitat Valenciana). These pics where taken partly in the FEVE period. (With the FEVE logos) There are several issues:

• These where taken at the narrow gauge station on the North side off the city. I dont know the name of it. Now the trams make a U-turn at the same location.

• I dont know anything about these types of train. A description would be usefull. Some may even be from pre FEVE times.

• I dont know any Spanish, but a Spanish description would be usefull.

I added some links to pictures in the Spanish Wiki article. Maybe this will trigger some action from our Spanish friends.

• The Category is unclear: Does the "FGV" refer to railway company running these trains now -or- To the railways in the Generalitat Valencia? In the first case I would put these pictures under the FEVE category (and maybe create a FEVE subcategory) In the second case I can leave things as now.

I created a new cat "FEVE rail in Generalitat Valencia" for the pictures from that period.

Greetings,

Smiley.toerist (talk) 22:18, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

• Note The above copied from WT:TWP Mjroots (talk) 17:31, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

The station at the tram loop is now Pont de Fusta (would translate as Wooden Bridge) but would have been 'Valencia Central' then. FGV runs all the railways in the Generalitat - that includes the tram in Alicante. Valenciano (talk) 17:58, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Moors # Seensawsee's edits # The facts

Hi! You might be interested in the discussion at Talk:Moors#The_facts. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 14:43, 26 April 2009 (UTC) The Ogre (talk) 14:43, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Beltran de Cetina

Anyone care to review the Beltran de Cetina article and give an opinion/suggestions for improvement. Thanks.--72.221.92.43 (talk) 02:08, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] User calling himself WikiProjectSpain

Hi! You might be interested in the discussion at User talk:WikiProjectSpain#Your username. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 11:02, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello, this is the "user" The Ogre mentioned at User talk:WikiProjectSpain#Your username. I was not aware there was a group with this name. I thank The Ogre for letting me know. I will request a change of username. Congratulations for the nice work, keep it up my friends! (qwerty (talk) 04:24, 29 April 2009 (UTC))

[edit] Roman Catholicism in Spain and History of Roman Catholicism in Spain

I'd like to draw your attention to these two articles. Roman Catholicism in Spain has existed for some time but is rather anemic and could use some expansion. History of Roman Catholicism in Spain is a new article that I have just created. I invite you to look at it and improve it or leave comments for further improvement at Talk:History of Roman Catholicism in Spain. Muchas gracias.

--Richard (talk) 18:36, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

[edit] TVEi on Sky Digital (reference main TVEi article)

On May 15th 2009, TVEi (which is usually found at channel 795 on Sky Digital) had disappeared. Harry Hayfield (talk) 18:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] AFD on (real? hoax?) Spanish families

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Order of León-Sable
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/House of Lemavia
• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don Manuel Joseph Martín López de Prado Rodríguez Díaz de Armesto y Varela, X Baron of Lemavia

Please review/comment. NVO (talk) 08:21, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal for a 200-WikiProject contest

A proposal has been posted for a contest between all 200 country WikiProjects. We're looking for judges, coordinators, ideas, and feedback.

The Transhumanist    00:39, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

[edit] GA Sweeps invitation

This message is being sent to WikiProjects with GAs under their scope. Since August 2007, WikiProject Good Articles has been participating in GA sweeps. The process helps to ensure that articles that have passed a nomination before that date meet the GA criteria. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. Instead of reviewing by topic, editors can consider picking and choosing whichever articles they are interested in.

We are always looking for new members to assist with reviewing the remaining articles, and since this project has GAs under its scope, it would be beneficial if any of its members could review a few articles (perhaps your project's articles). Your project's members are likely to be more knowledgeable about your topic GAs then an outside reviewer. As a result, reviewing your project's articles would improve the quality of the review in ensuring that the article meets your project's concerns on sourcing, content, and guidelines. However, members can also review any other article in the worklist to ensure it meets the GA criteria.

If any members are interested, please visit the GA sweeps page for further details and instructions in initiating a review. If you'd like to join the process, please add your name to the running total page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles from the worklist or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. With ~1,300 articles left to review, we would appreciate any editors that could contribute in helping to uphold the quality of GAs. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 06:27, 20 May 2009 (UTC)