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Contents 1 July 1 1.1 WP Crash 1.2 "File Download - Security Warning" 1.3 Image Map 1.4 Add an Image 1.5 Tor Issues 1.6 Is an article consisting mostly of links acceptable? 1.7 Book photos relating to films 1.8 UBX columns 1.9 Managing global account 1.10 Template problems 1.11 how to edit page in order to add notability and references! 1.12 How Wikipedia Survey is possible? 1.13 currior dout 1.14 United States Mint 1.15 Brett Salisbury was deleted from Wikipedia... 1.16 Changes to my Official Website 1.17 Requesting creation of an image 1.18 Tracing cross references to an article 1.19 Recognisable people in images of public places 1.20 Creating a page for a client 1.21 Obama 1.22 Most frequent editors for a page 1.23 Is there a noticeboard to ask about possible non-free images? 1.24 Admin pls deleted this own made file ASAP 1.25 Categories 1.26 Logging out 1.27 Having difficulty with "en.wikipedia.org" login on Internet Explorer 8.0 1.28 References 2 July 2 2.1 Going On - Disambiguation 2.2 Signature Error 2.3 Disambiguation of "reel" 2.4 Question 2.5 External appear Internal 2.6 Hw to name an article? 2.7 in 1mg of magnesium sulphate what is the quantity of magnesium and sulphate 2.8 Is this information correct? 2.9 All pages starting with... 2.10 Wikipedia pages 2.11 how can i save the page 2.12 Merchant Navy 2.13 Sortable tables 2.14 Why is there ActiveX on WP? 2.15 Lara Croft 2.16 Using the same reference 2.17 Live bookmark in Firefox 2.18 Template for "over-prosed" biographies? 2.19 Asking questions 3 July 3 3.1 Blocking Defaults 3.2 Appropriate Infobox for Brooklyn Borough Hall? 3.3 Logo Copying 3.4 Aligning text to the center 3.5 Forest Schools 3.6 Other website appearance 3.7 Recipients of the Legion of Merit 3.8 Infobox image not working 3.9 Press Council 3.10 Starting a new article 3.11 SMTP outgoing address for your e-mail server 3.12 handling e-mail notifications 3.13 Email Confirmations Not Working For Me 3.14 How correct internal link pointing to disambiguation page? 3.15 Page view statistics 3.16 What is the best approach to sections copied from other articles? 3.17 Copyright infringement 3.18 Image linking 3.19 Jay Adams 3.20 Wikipedia font displayed hard to read 3.21 A Bay Area philosifer said: 4 July 4 4.1 Article Searchability 4.2 credit card fraud 4.3 PNG better than SVG if the logo is copyrighted ? 4.4 Trouble with FaQ and sandboxes 4.5 saving options 4.6 color in content 4.7 Using a Social Network site in External Links. 4.8 Edit Process 4.9 Searching for or linking to "wiki:foo" redirects to a blank page at c2.com 4.10 Filth embedded in document 4.11 Deleting my Wikipedia account 4.12 Why doesn't my new page here come up when I type in its subject? 5 July 5 5.1 Writing a New Article 5.2 Retrieving articles 5.3 how do i write in here 5.4 I had IntrudersAlert from bonzi.com years ago and had lost it by now disposing of my PC. 5.5 IE8 issues 5.6 Invincible "Reference Section"

[edit] July 1

[edit] WP Crash

Where would I find information about what caused the site to be down between 18:23 and 19:30 (Eastern Daylight Savings Time) today? // BL \\ (talk) 23:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

At WP:VPT, of course. Specifically, WP:VPT#(Cannot contact the database server: Unknown error (10.0.6.24)). The server admin log can also be useful, as can #wikimedia-tech. Algebraist 00:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

While I am not sure what you intended by "of course" in that if it had been "of course" for me, I wouldn't have needed to ask, but . . . I am grateful for the information. Thank you. // BL \\ (talk) 00:09, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

By the 'of course', I meant that there is a note at the top of the page saying that these questions should go to VPT. Since that note is long gone (if it ever existed outside my head), consider it unsaid. Algebraist 00:18, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] "File Download - Security Warning"

Please help

Frequently, when clicking on a subject in Wikipedia or a link to Wikipedia, I get a

"File Download - Security Warning"

"Do you want to save this file, or find a program online to open it?"

I using Windows XP SP3 & the latest version of Internet Explorer 8. Rcj007 (talk) 00:10, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Are you clicking Wikipedia internal links or external links? You may have even clicked a PDF. Where exactly is this happening? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 00:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

you could have spyware or a rogue addon in IE trying to install an active X control. try resetting it through the tools/internet options/advanced. There is nothing on wikipedia to download. Ivtv (talk) 01:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC) ^^i was logged out. logging in and editing with correct sig

[edit] Image Map

How can I move an image map? Here's an example...

{{#tag:imagemap|
File:Example.JPG{{!}}70px
default [http://www.example.org]
desc none
}}

Where can I specify a location? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 00:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I have not worked with imagemaps, but you should read mw:Extension:ImageMap. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 00:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Your link missed an "m" before the "w", now added; hope that's ok. Bencherlite^Talk 01:39, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Add an Image

How do I upload and then add an image into a Wikipedia article? Zhouf12 (talk) 01:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

See Help:Image. Algebraist 01:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Make sure it's your own work, or someone else's in the public domain. Click 'Upload a file' (or do it in the commons) and fill in all the spaces they want you to fill. In the article, add [[File:Your Image Here.png]] and there you go. Concise, huh? All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 04:20, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Tor Issues

Hi

I recently started hosting a Tor node. When I to edit a page, I discovered that since my IP was on the Tor network, I couldn't edit, even though I have an account. I tried disabling Tor, but that didn't work. I had to reboot my router to get an new IP address to post this question. Why is this (I understand why Tor is blocked, but why does it affect me?) and is there a way to fix it? Samuell Lift me up or put me down 01:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

An exit node is an open proxy and thus all Wikipedia traffic coming from it, including yours, is blocked. To get around this block, you can request an proxy block exemption. Xenon54 (talk) 02:10, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Is an article consisting mostly of links acceptable?

There already exists a basic, but largely inaccurate, article about an organization. I'm associated with the organization and would like to improve things but don't see that copying information that already exists on the organizations web site is very efficient especially since changes would have to be made in 2 places.

I would like to replace the current article with a few words or a sentence for the major topics with a link to the associated information on the organization's web site.

Is this acceptable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.212.28.183 (talk) 02:20, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

No that would be a backwards step. Because of your conflict of interest you should go to the article's talk page and discuss there the changes that you think should be made, with reliable sources (and that does not include the subject's website). – ukexpat (talk) 02:35, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Could you provide the name of the article or a link to it? I can check it out. hmwithτ 14:35, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

There is a wiki page for American Gold Star Mothers but it is linked to another wiki page for Gold Star Mothers Club. The Gold Star Mothers Club page describes AGSM. As far as we know there is no GSMC and never has been. The organization's name is American Gold Star Mothers, Inc and its web site is at http://www.goldstarmoms.com (an admittedly poor choice for a domain name). I maintain the web site, as a volunteer, for AGSM. All the relevant information is there but I don't really want to get into the business of maintaining a large wiki page which for me would be redundant.

I had envisioned an overview paragraph plus a sentence or two about major areas like History, how to join, chapters, some of the events the moms participate in, the annual convention, etc with a link to the appropriate site page for details. That way when the information changes I wouldn't have to also change the wiki page. Any suggestions appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.212.28.183 (talk) 15:54, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

A lot of what you describe (outside its history, if you have sources not from the organization itself) would be non-encyclopedic content of the sort which we neither need nor want in Wikipedia. In addition, your conflict of interest makes you the worst possible person to edit this article. If you have suggestions for improving the article, as Ukexpat explained, make them on the article's talk page. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:56, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Remember, if you area member of an organisation, you probably won't be very neutral, so you'd better ask another editor to do it for you! All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 04:24, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Book photos relating to films

If there is a book, and an article for it doesn't exist, and there is a film based on that book, can an image of the book cover go in the infobox for the film? ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 08:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Assuming the book and film are non-free, then probably not. A theatrical poster is normally acceptable, per WP:NFC. decltype (talk) 08:30, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I would have thought not, even if the image is free. Surely the picture needs to be connected with the film - either a poster or a scene. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:38, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm familiar with the poster thing. Yeah, I guess I'll delete it then, keep you posted ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Given how badly most films misrepresent the book, I would reject this idea. The film is not the book and vice versa; and there is no way you could stretch fair use that far. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:58, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] UBX columns

Is there a template I can use to divide my userboxes up into columns? Not {{userboxtop}}/{{userboxbottom}}. Thank You! ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 09:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

You can just use a table. Check out my userbox page if you want an example. Chamal ^talk 10:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Try {{column}}. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 11:30, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Chamal N, works great (see my userpage) but for some reason, the userboxes I created interfere with it, hmmm... I'm gonna have to have a look at them ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 00:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Figured it out, for some reason I had <div style="clear:both"></div> in there for some reason, Thank you Chamal N and Gadget850! ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 01:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Managing global account

I had an unconfirmed account with my name remained on 1 project (wikipedia pl.) The username "Arteyu" for that language isn't mine and I do not know the password. I had checked "Arteyu" contribution on Wikipedia poland and it states that the user had only made one edit (years ago). I want to own this username for that poland language, but the problem is how could I possibly do that? Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 10:12, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello, you will have to Usrup it; see pl:Wikipedia:Przejmowanie nazwy użytkownika. --59.95.103.205 (talk) 10:20, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I can't understand that language, lol Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 10:25, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

If you can't understand polish, why do you want an account there? Yeah, I should have read the heading :P Just post your request on the linked page in English. That should be all right. Chamal ^talk 10:59, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

The "Request" section there [1] has English instructions as well. Regards SoWhy 11:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Template problems

As of a couple of hours ago, all templates have become faulty and infoboxes stay on the left, screwing up whole articles. I am running Firefox 3.5 on Vista. This has been fine since forever, and has only developed, like I said, recently. Here are some examples – link, link. I had been editing pages as normal before this randomly happened, thus see no plausible explanation. Thanks for any help. Andre666 (talk) 10:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't have the problem with Firefox on Vista. Does it help to clear your entire cache? PrimeHunter (talk) 10:40, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey, thanks a lot! I didn't even need to go as far as clearing the cache, I merely had to bypass it with Shift+F5. Cheers! Andre666 (talk) 10:49, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

One of the servers was borked for about an hour yesterday. You must have cached some corrupted code for a bit. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 12:11, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] how to edit page in order to add notability and references!

i have created an entry and now i want to add the information to conform with refernce and notability regulations. how can i add this before my entry gets removed?!Wackydoo (talk) 11:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, you seem to have this the other way around. The article should have references and indicate the notability of the subject before it is posted. However, you can learn about references from this page and the relevant notability info is on this page. TNXMan 11:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

(e/c): :Thanks for asking: you can find guidelines on what constitutes good sources at our "reliable sources" guideline, and details on how to add those references to your article at WP:CITE. Generally speaking, you should be looking for material like newspaper articles, books, journals, and so on, and you add citations by finding the part of your article the reference supports, and adding references in "ref" tags e.g. <ref>Example newspaper report, 1 July 2009</ref> ) into the article itself. The references will display if you add a section at the end of the article, like this:

==References==
{{reflist}}

Does that answer your question? Gonzonoir (talk) 11:52, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] How Wikipedia Survey is possible?

I'd like to know how to survey Wikipedians in English version specifically. As the researchers in KISDI(Korea information society development institute), we're looking for the possible ways of surveying Wikipedians in English version for our comparative study on cultural factors of contributing to Wikipedia between Korean and English version. I'll appreciate if you let me know.

What exactly are you trying to find out? I doubt you'd be able to do a survey of Wikipedians per se, but Wikipedia:Statistics have statistics about Wikipedia - would that help? PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:58, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Even though the sample size is very small, you may find this articleabout grumpy Wikipedians interesting. TNXMan 13:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

You may also find User:hmwith/stats interesting (religious and political views of Wikipedians). hmwithτ 14:31, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) i don't see why it would be a problem to put a survey for English-language Wikipedians on line and ask the English Wikipedia to announce it, encourage participation, etc. i don't know where one would ask for cooperation, though - WP:VP, maybe? Sssoul (talk) 14:38, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] currior dout

i m an ssc student passed with 67% n i m going 4 commerce i want 2b an fashion designer and an interior designer so can i do them parallelly after 12th —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.143.73.188 (talk) 12:48, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside involvement on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where the asking of knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Gonzonoir (talk) 12:56, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] United States Mint

Coins from the United States Mint —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.248.251.135 (talk) 14:45, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Coins of the United States dollar? Do you have a question about Wikipedia? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:50, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

You didn't ask a question! This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 15:21, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Brett Salisbury was deleted from Wikipedia...

Hi,

I would like you to take Brett Salisbury off the deleted wikipedia site. He was a controversal figure and as I read everything written up to his deletion, there may have been a point I favored with you and the wikipedia staff.

However, to the changes and things he has done, he is more than qualified to be on wikipedia and not a deleted figure that was once on here. He is now teamed up with the legendary Rudy for book two who the movie Rudy was based on. www.TransformDiet. under breaking news.

Hes done to much now to be left off this site. The publicst who represents him who represented Johnny Carson and all U.S. Presidents calls him the next "superstar." His book is selling rapidly and just look under breaking news on his website at www.TransformDiet.com It should say it all. Also the author tab of just what he has done, including top model and starting quarterback for the University of Oregon as well as Wayne State College All American. Again, Thank you Mike Dunbar138.210.42.14 (talk) 14:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

To request that a page be undeleted, please see WP:Deletion review. hmwithτ 14:59, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Brett Salisbury was deleted after a deletion discussion. If you feel that you can write a neutral, non-promotional article, I suggest creating an account and working on it in a sandbox in your userspace. Be sure to read our tips on writing your first article. TNXMan 15:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Changes to my Official Website

[edit] Requesting creation of an image

(My turn to ask a question instead of answering!) An editor's suggested that Buildings of Jesus College, Oxford could do with a sketch map to illustrate the layout of the college. Alas, there's no suitable free image, but there are some copyrighted illustrations that show what's needed. Is there a WP group for this sort of image creation request, and if so, where? Bencherlite^Talk 15:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Requested pictures. :) Cureden 16:06, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Does Wikipedia:Requested pictures have what you need? I don't know if they handle sketches, however. TNXMan 16:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Try Graphic Lab/Image workshop--SPhilbrickT 16:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Tracing cross references to an article

Is it possible to trace which articles link back to a specific article in the same way that the Google "links:" function will tell you who links to a specific website? -- redherring (talk) 16:15, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

If you look on the left hand side of a page, under the "toolbox", you should see a link that says "what links here". This will display all of the incoming internal links to a page, including redirects. For example, this page shows all of the pages that link to the help desk.TNXMan 16:17, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks for the rapid and simple answer - I feel a bit embarrassed having asked!! Thanks -- redherring (talk) 16:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

No need to feel embarrassed - I guarantee there are people who have been around for years who just learned that for the first time :)--SPhilbrickT 16:28, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

"What links here" works by order of the date of creation of the page, not the date of the addition of the link, incidentally. It also works for redlinks (deleted and never created). Bencherlite^Talk 16:47, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually it's good to feel embarrassed when learning something new. This means your brain is forming a long term memory. When you have no emotional response to some new information, you are much more likely to forget it. --Teratornis (talk) 18:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

And see Help:What links here and the other pages under WP:EIW#Wikilink. --Teratornis (talk) 18:53, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Recognisable people in images of public places

If I take a photo of, say, a sculpture in a public place and publish it in the public domain what issues, if any, are there around copyright or privacy? It is quite possible that someone in the image may be recognisable and, I suppose, could argue that a picture in which they are recognisable is an invasion of privacy. Or they might claim that their image is their personal property and so they own the copyright and by publishing the image I am infriging that copyright. Would the situation be different if I were to use the images for commercial purposes? -- redherring (talk) 16:19, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

According to [2], permission is not needed as long as it's been taken in a public area and not in a place where the person has a right to expect privacy. Cureden 16:28, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Creating a page for a client

I am a publicist looking to create a wikipedia page for an up and coming actor who is a client. I have spent the better part of an hour figuring out how- what do I do? what do I create a new page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by JS2Commpr (talk • contribs) 16:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but Wikipedia cannot be used for promotion of an actor. It also sounds like you have a conflict of interest, which means that you are highly discouraged from writing about the person. You can, however, submit an article to be reviewed at the articles for creation page. Be sure to read our info on writing your first article. TNXMan 17:50, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, I'm guessing that if they are up and coming, they have little or no on-screen or on-poster credits? Would we find them on IMDB, for example? If they have no experience, then they would not meet the notability criteria (see Wikipedia:Notability). If they don't, then any article created would be quickly deleted! As Tnxman307 says, read the "first article" info, then create a page and ask for it to be reviewed. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:05, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Please read WP:UPANDCOMING as well. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

OOh, I didn't know about that page! Thanks, Orangemike. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 23:49, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Obama

Why do you not allow any critical text about Obama, yet President Bush has a lot of critical text on here? Also, why are those that post unflattering comments about Obama, even ones backed up by legitimate news reports, removed and the user banned for a period of time? You cannot call yourselves a legitimate information site when you are sanitizing what you deem necessary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.19.213.127 (talk) 17:43, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest looking at the talk page for the article, as many of these issues have been discussed there. If you feel that you can add info that is supported by independent reliable sources, that's the place to suggest it. TNXMan 17:48, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

This page is for help on using Wikipedia. For content issues, please discuss it on the article talk page or at Wikipedia:Content noticeboard. I'm not involved in any editing of the Obama articles, but you should note that there are a series of articles. For example: if you were inserting any detailed content on Obama's citizenship into the main article, it will probably get reverted as the related content grew large enough for a separate article titlesd Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 17:51, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Pay particular attention to the rather awkwardly-formatted Talk:Barack Obama/FAQ page. --Teratornis (talk) 18:24, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, do not address Wikipedia as "you". Wikipedia is not a person; rather, it is some large number of diverse contributors represented by 10,020,855 registered user accounts and a similar number of unregistered users. The users who answer questions on the Help desk are probably not the same users who police the Barack Obama article. The main thing we have in common is our attempt to follow Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If you have not studied Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, I can guarantee that many aspects of Wikipedia's operation will not make sense to you. If you want to make much headway on Wikipedia, particularly if your ambition is to edit one of our controversial articles, your success will be proportional to the effort you invest in learning our rules. While Wikipedia bills itself as "The Free Encyclopedia" (see the slogan in our logo to the top left), when it comes to editing on Wikipedia we are not a welfare state. Instead we are one of the most brutally competitive meritocracies around. --Teratornis (talk) 18:42, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey, {{NUMBEROFUSERS}} returned 9,999,555 when I previewed this and 10,020,855 when this is read. Who will be number 10,000,000? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:30, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

WP:ONNTSA. – ukexpat (talk) 18:49, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I would also suggest you check back with your sources, as somebody seems to have grossly misinformed you about the state of articles about Obama in Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Most frequent editors for a page

I figure that it exists, but I haven't seen it. Is there a tool that will show the most frequent editors for a page? I'm not looking for something extremely complicated, just a list of editors from the one with the most edits to the one with the least edits for a single page. -- kainaw™ 18:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Page History Statistics. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 18:40, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Works great. -- kainaw™ 22:33, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

No need to leave the Wikipedia, you can easily visit this at the Wikipedia by doing Page name > History > Revision history statistics ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 06:41, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Is there a noticeboard to ask about possible non-free images?

Is there a noticeboard to ask about possible non-free images? If not, can I ask here how I can request an opinion on File:NBL-logo.jpg? It is tagged with {{PD-USGov-NASA}}. but the NASA logo isn't covered by that. The uploader was assuming that "Individual departments aren't covered by these restrictions the way I read it" (see User talk:RadioFan/Archives/2009/July#Neutral Buoyancy Lab logo). As this looks too complex for either of us, how can I find someone with the expertise to decide? --RexxS (talk) 18:45, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

There is Wikipedia:Media copyright questions and Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files. Garion96 (talk) 18:47, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Admin pls deleted this own made file ASAP

Please delete this file (created by me) ASAP File:AFC Wimbledon4.svg. Thanks Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 19:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Y Done TNXMan 19:07, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow, thats fast! Thanks Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 19:09, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

In the future, you can tag it for speedy deletion per WP:CSD#G7. hmwithτ 02:13, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

An edit by a user popped on my watchlist and after checking their contribs I noticed that they have been adding a lot of cats out of alphabetical order (and have done so for nearly 500 edits). I have notified them of their mistake, but in reviewing some of the films (mainly) where they have been adding production cats I noticed a lot of films (and probably other articles) have cats out of order. My question is: is there a bot to fix the order of cats or where is the place to find out if there is a bot, or who would I talk to about getting such a bot made? Darrenhusted (talk) 21:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

There is no consensus that categories should be ordered alphabetically. Some folks feel tha the most relevant categories should come first. I am sure this has been discussed on the Wikipedia:Categorization talk page. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 22:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Logging out

My logout button is not clickable. It's not my computer at fault. Why is this? JohnClarknew (talk) 00:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi John. Does clicking *here* work? PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 00:27, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

could it be your monobook.js file? Have you changed it? (If you haven't heard of it then you probably haven't changed it) Hintswen  Talk | Contribs  00:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I've just tried both the "log out" option at the top of the page, and the link I just put here, and they both work. If it isn't your computer that is as fault, and assuming that you haven't changed your monobook.js file, then I'm guessing the fault is with you! PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 00:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Oy!! JohnClarknew (talk) 04:03, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Seriously though, have you got it working yet, John? PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 07:40, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Having difficulty with "en.wikipedia.org" login on Internet Explorer 8.0

My browser often crashes when I try to open articles that begin with en.wikipedia.org. How do I open them? I am using Internet Explorer 8. Rshafer174 (talk) 01:27, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

All the articles on the English Wikipedia are located at "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_name". hmwithτ 02:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Issue is user side. Reset IE8. Tools/Internet options/Advanced/Reset. Then try again Ivtv (talk) 03:53, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] References

Petergans thinks that his new article, Metal Ions in Life Sciences, does not require any references. But doesn't every single article, from stubs to featured articles, need references? All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 14:47, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

All articles must be verifiable, which means every article must have references (And at least a few reliable sources, preferably). Chamal ^talk 02:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

You're definitely in the right here Kayau, I've noticed some imperfections on the article and a few things that require references. ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 02:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I unhid the unrefd tag -- ISBNs verify the existence of the books, but not their notability.  – ukexpat (talk) 03:35, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

...or what is mentioned about them in the article. Chamal ^talk 05:11, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

They aren't even reliable evidence that a book exists. See Wikipedia:ISBN#Uses and limitations of ISBNs. Algebraist 13:08, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm confused. Have you all been visiting my talk page? I see no other reason why you started to talk about ISBNs. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 13:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I saw the ISBN tag on the article, that's what prompted my comment. – ukexpat (talk) 14:30, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

But Algebraist must have peeked. :) Otherwise he wouldn't have said anything about the 'existence of books'. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 02:25, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

You mean the think Ukexpat mentioned two comments above? Algebraist 02:28, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] July 2

[edit] Going On - Disambiguation

Wikipedians, How do I start a new page with new material, when the name is already taken? For example, I'm starting a new page for the play "Going On" by Charles Dennis, but "Going On" currently links to a page about a video. Thank you for your help. 65.218.218.163 (talk) 03:08, 2 July 2009 (UTC) Cerberusrunning 7/2/2009

See WP:DISAMBIGUATION. – ukexpat (talk) 03:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Signature Error

For some reason, when I try to save this in my preferences, it says, "Error, Check HTML tags". Feel free to edit my signature without changing it's appearance to my this correct. Thank you ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 04:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Disambiguation of "reel"

I was looking up the word "reel" as a technical term in the context of slot machines, and found it on the slot machine page. The word reel took me to a page that discusses reels in the "purest" meaning of the word, i.e. machines about which long, slender objects are coiled. I checked out Reel (disambiguation) to see if the slot machine application was covered there, but it wasn't. I therefore added it.

Having added the slot machine-related disambiguation, I have automatically created a not-yet-existent new page called reel (slot machine). However, there is already information about slot machine reels on the slot machine page.

There is already information about reels on the slot machine page itself. Was following this "reel" thing through to the point I did, i.e. creating a whole new page for it, the right thing to do?

Tripbeetle (talk) 05:15, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

To start, a note about terminology. You have added a redlink to a disambiguation page; you have not "created" a page.

You're right that there is an issue, albeit a minor one. First, decide if you are going to create a new article under the title reel (slot machine). If so, you should move the long descriptive sentence you added at Reel (disambiguation) to the page you'll create, as well as adding more relevant information to make an good start at an article. (See Wikipedia:Your first article for suggestions.) If you do not intend to create a new article, you should move that descriptive text to the page slot machine in a relevant section.

Once you have done that, the description on the disambiguation page should be cut down to a minimum. (The point of those pages is to get readers to the article they want as quick as possible without being slowed down by non-vital text.)

• If you have created a new page, the disambiguation sentence should be something like "Reel (slot machine), a vertical disk that forms the main features of a slot machine", though the link would no longer be red due to your article creation.
• If you have put your information in the slot machine article, but still want to encourage someone else to create a new article specific to the slot machine reel, add a redlink to the desired article and a bluelink to the article with existing information: "Reel (slot machine), a vertical disk that forms the main features of a slot machine."
• If you don't think that Reel (slot machine) will ever be accepted as an encyclopedic article, drop the redlink entirely and use the disambiguation to get the reader to slot machine: "Reel, a vertical disk that forms the main features of a slot machine."

Just my .02. - BanyanTree 07:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I've altered the disambig page to what Banyan recommended (final option) - and removed the link to "reel" in the first paragraph of Slot machine, as that lead to the wrong type of reel! If Tripbeetle thinks that the extra definition that was on the disambig page is required, I'd suggest it's put somewhere suitable on the Slot machine page. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 07:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Hi, why has the search thing changed? 78.144.182.99 (talk) 05:21, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I noticed that too, I guess so ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 05:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

But Why has it changed? 78.144.182.99 (talk) 05:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Not sure, I'm starting to like it though, the screen used to be cluttered, and you'd have to scroll down to see your search results, I can see that some people may not be able to find them ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 06:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

(ec)Server admin log states "22:10 logmsgbot: brion synchronized php-1.5/InitialiseSettings.php 'Enabling new search UI formatting sitewide' " I'm guessing it's something the Usability Initiative has come up with to increase the visibility of the search field, but can't find a relevant discussion. - BanyanTree 06:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] External appear Internal

Is there a way I can make an external link appear internal? With out the symbol appearing? Thanks! ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 05:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

You can use the <span class="plainlinks"></span> tags (eg: <span class="plainlinks">http://en.wikipedia.org</span> produces http://en.wikipedia.org) but notice that the colour is lighter than a normal link. Chamal ^talk 05:41, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow, you are just knocking out help desk questions, one after another! Thank you, I've been looking for this! ---Scarce |||| You shouldn't have buried me, I'm not dead--- 05:53, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

There is also a {{plainlinks}} template. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Hw to name an article?

I have created an article by the name "Java Tips" but i'm not able to find it thru wikipedia search engine Is there any other procedure to name an article. If so then kindly inform me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mail2.hn (talk • contribs) 06:35, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

The "article" is your user page, User:Mail2.hn. See Wikipedia:Your first article for how to to create an article. But your page would not be appropriate as an article, and if in article space would be speedily deleted. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a collection of how-to tips. Sorry —teb728 t c 07:09, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you could try WikiBooks. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 04:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] in 1mg of magnesium sulphate what is the quantity of magnesium and sulphate

in 1mg of magnesium sulphate what is the quantity of magnesium and sulphate —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.143.50.180 (talk) 08:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Science reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 08:25, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

That looks, however, like a homework problem: The Reference desk will not do your homework for you. So if you ask there be sure you show them that you are trying to solve the problem yourself. —teb728 t c 08:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Please, don't ask your homework here. Wikipedia is for people who want information, but not for people who want answers. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 04:14, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Is this information correct?

"...The program was normally broadcast live from a New York City studio; however, Cooper often broadcasted live on location for breaking news stories. He died on July 1, 2009 in Los Angeles while covering the events surrounding the Michael Jackson deathBold text."

I tried googling it but to no reports of his death. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.48.34.22 (talk) 09:24, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Not true - vandalism has been reverted [3] --59.95.119.198 (talk) 09:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] All pages starting with...

I often use the "All pages starting with..." function on Wikipedia, but it seems to have disappeared with a recent reformatting of the search options. Is there still a way to generate a list of all pages starting with a particular series of characters? Neelix (talk) 11:45, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with the function, but when I start typing in the search box I get a dynamic list of suggestions, which seems to be the same functionality. Does this work for you? If not, maybe try re-enabling JavaScript? Cheers, TFOWR^{This flag once was red} 11:48, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but with some more typing, e.g. if you type something like Special:PrefixIndex/toy into the search box you'll get the page starting with "toy". --rainman (talk) 11:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

That's great; the PrefixIndex works well. Thanks very much! Neelix (talk) 12:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Special:PrefixIndex can also be reached by clicking "Special pages" in the toolbox to the left and then click "All pages with prefix". PrimeHunter (talk) 12:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

If you use PrefixIndex a lot, you could add it to your personal toolbar with JavaScript. Algebraist 13:04, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia pages

I am creating some tutorials to show how to use my companies software. I want to show how to link to a web page. Is it aceptable to include a screen shot of a wikepedia page as an exmpale of how this works?

Thanks

Adrian —Preceding unsigned comment added by Awplant (talk • contribs) 12:25, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

See WP:REUSE. – ukexpat (talk) 14:25, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] how can i save the page

Hi can you guide me that how can i save my search pages in Wikipedia's account means if i open ten pages daily and i like one page to save so that if in future i want to re-open that particular page so is it possible to save particular pages on my Wikipedia's account? i will be thankful to you for this guideness —Preceding unsigned comment added by Farooquet (talk • contribs) 13:19, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

The simplest way is to use your browser's bookmarking feature. Algebraist 13:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

You can also watch the page by clicking on the "watch" tab at the top of the article. Then, by clicking on "my watchlist" at the very top of the page, you can access and see all the recent changes to all the articles you've watched. a little insignificant 14:32, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

See Help:Watchlist for more information about it Spitfire^Tally-ho! 14:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you could put the links on your own userpage. I've seen an editor do it before. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 04:10, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Merchant Navy

we need the information about marchant neavy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.200.161.163 (talk) 14:59, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Merchant Navy. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. TNXMan 15:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

You could also try the Merchant Navy Association’s official website Spitfire^Tally-ho! 15:34, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Sortable tables

In the Oil by country article, there is a large sortable table. At first this seems to work Ok, but if I sort the "Consumption (bbl/day)" column twice to get the highest consumption at the top of the list, the subsequent data is sorted alphabetically and not numerically (eg. 950,500 is followed by 950 then by 928,600). Is this a limitation of the sortable table, or is there some trick to fixing this? Astronaut (talk) 16:49, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

In fact it seems to only the "Consumption (bbl/day)" column with this problem. Astronaut (talk) 16:54, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

The comma is treated as a sortable character. Either remove the commas or add a sortlink with {{sort}}. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 17:56, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

According to Help:Sorting the JS used is now clever enough that that shouldn't be a problem, and the other columns appear to be sorting as they should. Algebraist 18:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Why is there ActiveX on WP?

I'm seeing atop every WP page viewed, a warning notification from Symantec Antivirus that "Your security settings do not allow Web sites to use ActiveX controls installed on your computer. This page may not display correctly." Is there some way to make my preferences such that no ActiveX is used? LeadSongDog come howl 17:21, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

You probably want WP:VPT. Algebraist 17:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, will try.LeadSongDog come howl 17:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Lara Croft

I am led to believe that the creator of Lara Croft sold his "rights" to his creation and then supposedly, went on (or was going) to create an "Old Sea Captain" character, that travelled the world. Did this come to fruition or have I been misled?, or if it did come to fruition, what were the games called? Secondly, has the creator of Lara Croft done anything since Lara Croft and if so what?. I can be best reached on my works e-mail address <blanked>

Thank you for the opportunity to be involved in this fantastic Lara Croft interest. Neil s evans (talk) 18:17, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Lara Croft. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. TNXMan 18:22, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

See Galleon (video game). -- kainaw™ 18:33, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Using the same reference

I have written several sections from the same reference but when I reference each paragraph it comes up at the bottom as 4 or 5 references from the same source. Is there a way I can write it once and then reference other parts the same but have it under one reference at the bottom? Thanks (p.s, sorry for using the word "reference" so many times). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Plane Person (talk • contribs) 18:35, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners#Same ref used twice or more. Theleftorium 18:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Plane Person (talk • contribs) 19:05, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Also dealt with at WP:NAMEDREFS. – ukexpat (talk) 19:20, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

You might also look at Template:Rp if you want to cite different pages of the same reference.--SPhilbrickT 02:22, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Live bookmark in Firefox

I'd like to watch some of the bot contribution pages so that it shows up in some kind of live feed in one of my windows, probably in Firefox. I notice that I can get an RSS feed from any contribs page in a "live bookmark" on Firefox, but I'm not sure what that means. Is there a way for me to hear something and see something in real time by subscribing to a bot's contribs page? - Dank (push to talk) 19:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Using an RSS feed won't enable you to see realtime updates as they happen - the browser page displaying the feed will have to be refreshed to show changes, but I think it can be set up to refresh automatically at a set interval. – ukexpat (talk) 19:23, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

What instructions have you read so far? I've never tried this, but you could read Wikipedia:Syndication, RSS, Features of Mozilla Firefox#Live Bookmarks, and Livemark. Perhaps due to Wikipedia's WP:NOTHOWTO guideline, the articles are rather thin on specific instructions. A search on Mozilla's site finds Reloading Live Bookmarks. --Teratornis (talk) 19:27, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. - Dank (push to talk) 22:53, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Template for "over-prosed" biographies?

I routinely see biographic entries of (mostly) actors that contain long ramblings of "He starred in the movie X. He then starred in the movie Y. Later he played the chief on the TV series Z. Then he ...".

To me, this extremely annoying: It is hard to extract the relevant information from the text, and the stylistic weakness makes me cringe. In place, I would strongly prefer that the actual prose was restricted to deeper statements about a limited number of particularly noteworthy parts, and that the long listings were kept as actual lists/filmographies.

Unfortunately, I have not found a corresponding template. Anyone with a recommendation? 88.77.135.6 (talk) 21:09, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

{{copyedit}} should do the trick. See the template documentation. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 22:25, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I had hoped for something more specific (cf. e.g. templates like Advert or Buzzword), but, short of adding a new template, copyedit for="something or other" seems to be the best solution.88.77.151.114 (talk) 08:49, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Asking questions

Has Wikipedia considered implementing or adopting or test-driving a utility that would allow users to pose questions about an entry (article?) or to the author(s)? How about adding a 'field' in which readers can suggest other content. (Maybe the readers aren't subject matter experts, but they still would be in a position to put forward unknowns of interest.)

I don't know if my question is addressed elsewhere, but that would add tremendous value to Wikipedia I think.

Thank you in advance.

~Kevin Terpstra

<blanked> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.208.54.118 (talk) 23:32, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Actually, we have something like that already. At the top of each page is a "talk" tab. This allows readers to make suggestions about the content of an article without actually editing the article. If someone has a question about the article, they can ask there or at one of our reference desks. It's often (correctly) pointed out that Wikipedia is not easy to learn. However, the talk page can be a great place to get started. TNXMan 23:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Just to be clear, article talk pages are for discussing the content of the article, not for general questions about the subject. But as Tnxman says, general questions are welcome on the Reference desk. —teb728 t c 00:48, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Some article talk pages have a box showing that the article is maintained by one or more editors who may be able to answer questions. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 02:15, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] July 3

[edit] Blocking Defaults

Please see 25/8. That is the title of the film. You know when an article is like.. Example:123/Test. And under the title, in small print it will say Example | 123 because of the slashes. Is there any template I can use to block this from happening on the 25/8 article? ---Scarce |||| Talk -Contrib.--- 02:54, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Subpages are disabled in the mainspace, so it's fine as it is. Algebraist 02:57, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

What about the talk page? ---Scarce |||| Talk -Contrib.--- 03:40, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't believe such a template (or other method) exists. One could use personal javascript to hide the subpage uplink for Talk: pages whose corresponding mainspace page exists, but that's all I can think of. Algebraist 03:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I once posted to Talk:9#This is year 9 talk page to explain things to users following such a link. You could do similar at Talk:25, but I expect fewer users accidentally ending up there. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:07, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Appropriate Infobox for Brooklyn Borough Hall?

Do you know of one? It is on the List of New York City Designated Landmarks in Brooklyn. If you know of a list of infoboxes, that would help too. I found this Category:Buildings and structures infobox templates but it doesn't have anything useful to the article. Thanks Louis Waweru  Talk  03:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

What's wrong with {{Infobox building}}? Algebraist 03:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Nothing, just seeing if anyone has one for landmarks or government buildings. Louis Waweru  Talk  03:20, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

{{Infobox nrhp}}. Algebraist 03:23, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

There we go, now that's granular. Thank you Louis Waweru  Talk  03:29, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Logo Copying

If you replicate a logo, and an image of the actual logo was not used in the replication, can it be uploaded to the Wikipedia as free? Such as public domain ---Scarce |||| Talk -Contrib.--- 03:49, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

A copy of a copyrighted work falls under the same copyright. That's kinda the point of copyright. The technical means by which the copy was produced aren't relevant. Algebraist 03:52, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Okay! ---Scarce |||| Talk -Contrib.--- 03:54, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

And see Commons:Commons:Derivative works. --Teratornis (talk) 20:58, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Aligning text to the center

You now how you can use <font color=color> </font> to change text color, is there a template I can use for aligning text to the center? Thanks! ---Scarce |||| Talk -Contrib.--- 04:15, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Algebraist 04:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Clever! ---Scarce |||| Talk -Contrib.--- 04:27, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

And we actually have a {{center}} template. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:50, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Forest Schools

Could I suggest that someone more adept at moving pages than I am moves Forest Schools to Forest School, incorporating the links and talk page already there? I am afraid of overwriting stuff if I try to do this myself, but I think it needs doing. Thanks.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:57, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Target page exists already, so this can't be done by normal users due to technical restriction; you need an admin to do this. I suggest you list it at Wikipedia:Requested Moves. —SpaceFlight89 (talk) 09:07, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

You are suggesting a merger of two pages and not just a move from one page name to another. That doesn't belong on Wikipedia:Requested Moves. You could follow the proposed merger procedure instead but I would oppose it. Forest Schools is about a type of school. Forest School is a disambiguation page for schools called "Forest School" for whatever reason, for example named after a person. Some of them are not of the type. The two pages serve different purposes and should not be merged. But maybe names shold be changed, for example to "Forest school" for the type and "Forest School (disambiguation)" for the name? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:56, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Other website appearance

Why is my talk page and other user pages appearing on other websites:

• http://www.momblognetwork.com/content/user-talktyw7
• http://sthweb.bu.edu/shaw/anna-howard-shaw-center/biography?view=mediawiki&article=User_talk%3ATyw7
• http://wapedia.mobi/en/User_talk:Tyw7
• http://top40-charts.com/pedia.php?title=User_talk:Tyw7

Please reply asap. --Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions) 10:28, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

All pages on Wikipedia are published under a free GFDL license so people are free to copy, mirror or modify anything on Wikipedia and use it wherever they want. As to why these sites are mirroring your userpage, I don't know why; but they're free to do so. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 10:44, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

They download the entire database and import it to their system. {{noindex}} has no effect on mirrors like this. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 10:49, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

How to prevent this? And what does the tag {{NOINDEX}} does? --Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions) 10:49, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Your talk page transcludes {{Usertalkheader}} which explains it may be found on other sites. Mirror sites must give credit to the source to satisfy the GFDL. Many fail to do so. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean? --Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions) 10:52, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

{{NOINDEX}} tells search engines such as Google to not index your page. However, these mirror sites download the entire Wikipedia database and export it to their site; this includes user pages. {{Usertalkheader}} includes the notice that "If you find this page on any site other than Wikipedia, you are viewing a mirror site." I don't know of any way to prevent this and I have no clue why mirrors would want to include user pages. See Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 11:04, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Are you reading the links in the replies? The magic word __NOINDEX__ uses noindex to tell search engines to not index the page. Wikipedia deliberately gives no method to stop mirrors. Below the edit box it says "You irrevocably agree to release your contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License 3.0 and the GFDL. You agree to be credited, at minimum, through a hyperlink or URL when your contributions are reused in any form."

There is disagreement about how mirrors and other data users must give credit to the source, for example you and others who have edited your talk page. Many mirrors do nothing at all which is clearly disallowed. Many consider it enough credit to give a link to the page where the page history can be used to find contributors. Some mirrors give a list of all contributors in the page history. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:07, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

The Momblog website poses the most concern because it seems to have been POSTED by a user not by an automatic mirror. --Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions) 12:02, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

The weirdest thing to me is that it's a diff page. The Mom Blog poster jackjames has apparently posted a lot of random looking Wikipedia diffs, sometimes seconds apart so it may be automated. The url of the diff is given as source. Many of the diffs have consecutive numbers, indicating they were consecutive edits at Wikipedia. An edit to your talk page just happened to be among them. I wouldn't worry about it. I might be worried about getting rid of this junk and blocking the poster if I was a Mom Blog moderator. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:02, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Recipients of the Legion of Merit

How to I add Col. Wayne E. Thurman's name to the "Recipients of the Legion of Merit list? Col. Thurman was Assistant to the Deputy Chief of Staff in the War Department when General Thomas T. Handy was Deputy Chief of Staff. General Thomas T. Handy awarded Wayne the Legion of Merit on 31 August 1947. I have the citation and a photo of Gen. Handy presenting it to Wayne, then a Lt. Colonel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.234.161.168 (talk) 11:05, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I guess you are referring to Category:Recipients of the Legion of Merit. That is a category and not a list. See Help:Category. Only Wikipedia pages can be added to categories and there appears to be no page about Wayne E. Thurman. If he satisfies Wikipedia:Notability (people) then you or somebody else might write a biography about him and then add it to categories. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:15, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Wayne Thurman doesn't have a wikipedia page at the moment. If you could provide a reliable website or book which would give information about him, I'm sure an editor would create a stub page, and add his name to the list of LoM recipients, but we need the citation reference. I can't find a reference to Wayne Thurman through searching Google, etc, but if you can provide the citation, and where we can find it, I'm sure any editor would be happy to add it to the list PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 11:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox image not working

I can't get this image to show up in the Chester Grosvenor and Spa article. I've followed the tl:Infobox building usage and also tried just about everything else. I've also tried a different image, to see if that was the problem. I've added several photos to infoboxes before and never had this problem. Can someone help, please! Maedin\^talk 11:09, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

You had image= twice, with the second one blank. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 11:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

D'oh. Smacks forehead. Thank you, Gadget! Maedin\^talk 12:01, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Press Council

What is the benefit of the nigerian press council decree to the nigerian journalist —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.138.19.243 (talk) 12:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried the Humanities section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. TNXMan 13:38, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Please do your own homework. Welcome to the Wikipedia Help desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here to not do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn how to solve such problems.
Please attempt to solve the problem yourself first. You can search Wikipedia or search the Web.
If you need help with a specific part of your homework, the Reference desk can help you grasp the concept. Do not ask knowledge questions here, just those about using Wikipedia. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:02, 3 July 2009 (UTC) Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not Yahoo Answers. Please stop asking such questions here. Thank you. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 04:04, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Starting a new article

I would like to start a new article on the Three Dimensional Black Board. I was concerned that it might be a COI and was referred to Requested Article. I'm not sure what category to put the request in, as it is both an educational tool and a sophisticated scientific instrument. I have been ponderinng this for quite some time, and seem to have reached an impasse. I am sure that this would be a notable topic, and a valuable addition to the encyclopedia. If I can get someone to start the article, I am sure I can provide the necessary references and details without using Original Research. Any ideas? Phineas J. Whoopee (talk) 13:05, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

From your user name, I'm assuming you are referring to the fictional device from Tennessee Tuxedo and His Tales, I don't think we really need an article about it, unless you had a lot of detail with good references! PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:07, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it's a COI, but probably not very notable. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 04:02, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] SMTP outgoing address for your e-mail server

Hello

Can you please provide me with the SMTP outgoing address for your e-mail server.

Thank you. Regards.

JJ van den Berg E-mail address :- <blanked>

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.

Also, as wikipedia is a very public internet site, your e-mail address has been removed by Tnxman307! PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 14:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] handling e-mail notifications

- Cureden 15:04, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

hi. question archive at the archive already handled this a bit, but i wanted to add reasoning & maybe suggest some possible solutions.
my watchlist produces on average 1-2 notifications a day. current setup requires me to manually check my watchlist every now and then (which i can't always do and often forget), older changes wanish from the watchlist and it seems to me that watchlist 'diff' links only show the latest change to the page (thus i often miss prior edits). that is very, very inconvenient and i constantly miss edits that i'd like to know about. what about enabling this feature, but leaving it to 'off' by default, so users would have to explicitly enable it - and if there still are performance concerns, what about some arbitrary limit, like "you can only enable email notifications if your watclist is < 50 pages" ? i believe that would notably improve quality of the contents - and i wouldn't have to hammer servers by viewing watchlist manually when that's not needed ;) --Richlv (talk) 14:38, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

It is enabled. Check your preferences. Algebraist 14:51, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

oh. my. awesomely awesome, THANKS. --Richlv (talk) 15:00, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Email Confirmations Not Working For Me

I'm not receiving any email confirmations at the address I want to use, craig-wikipedia at theburleys.net, whereas if I change my preferences to use my work address (with a completely different domain name) it works right away. I'd rather not use my work address or use a different domain name that I have (hosted alongside theburleys.net).

Is theburleys.net "blacklisted" in some way, due e.g. to lots of Joe Jobs that have been sent, forging that domain name? If so, could it be unblocked, at least selectively, for this situation? If not, what is the problem with sending emails to that address? I receive plenty of other emails at that domain, but don't even see any attempts to deliver emails to me at that address in my SMTP server logs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cburley (talk • contribs) 15:53, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Are you doing the @ smbol right? craig-wikipedia at theburleys.net ---Scarce |||| Talk -Contrib.--- 17:44, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, just substituting it here to reduce scrapes (and edited your post accordingly). -- Cburley (talk) 18:18, July 3, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] How correct internal link pointing to disambiguation page?

See Ryan Lizza and link to The Washingtonian.

Washingtonian link goes to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washingtonian;

I think it should point to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washingtonian_(magazine).

I tried to edit the link following formatting from the Cheat Sheet but my edit results in a "page does not exist."

Can you show proper correction?

Thanks, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.67.153 (talk) 17:25, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

You want an internal link that points to Washingtonian to point to Washingtonian (magazine), correct? ---Scarce |||| Talk -Contrib.--- 17:39, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The best way to do this is to add a piped link (which I've done here). Thus, [[Washingtonian (magazine)|Washingtonian]] produces Washingtonian. TNXMan 17:40, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

If you're reading Wikis for Dummies, please note that there is no standard for wikis, so the Cheat Sheet probably didn't work. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 03:59, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Page view statistics

Whenever I click the PVS link in the revision history, my browser says that http://stats.grok.se/en/latest doesn't exist, is this just me? ---Scarce |||| Talk -Contrib.--- 17:55, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't work for me either. Cureden 18:00, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I'd guess it's temporarily offline. It was working fine the day before yesterday, when I last used it. Gonzonoir (talk) 18:09, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Crap, I use that alot! Hope it's back by tonight ---Scarce |||| Talk -Contrib.--- 23:23, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I haven't tried for now, but I remember that it didn't work yesterday. All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 03:58, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] What is the best approach to sections copied from other articles?

I was reading an article and noticed a problem in the references. It was a named reference without the full reference where the name was introduced. A quick search led me to the original where several paragraphs were copied from another article in Wikipedia. I could do anything from fix the reference and leave the text to condense and link back with a {{main}} to a total rewrite. Rather than fumble through policy pages and commentaries, I was hoping that I could get some generalized recommendations on how to approach the problem and figure out which policies take precedence. Also, are there any additional actions I should take? In advance, thank you. Novangelis (talk) 18:06, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

If the text fits in the article into which it's been pasted, I'd say leave it there, but take two extra steps:

1. Add a note to the article talk page noting that part of the text was copied and pasted from another article, and provide a link back to the source article - that's the best we can do toward attribution as part of our license.
2. Copy over the refs from the original article, so they work in the destination article too.

I had to do something very similar the other day on Vinyl chloride - take a look at its edit history and talk page to see what I did. Gonzonoir (talk) 18:12, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Done and done. Thank you. Even with several hours of looking through policies, I doubt I would have found this combination. Novangelis (talk) 19:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright infringement

Am I allowed to commercially reuse an image from a Wikipedia article if it is licensed with a GNU? I researched this in FAQs but am still a little incredulous that I can copy an image for free. Thank you. 173.46.230.215 (talk) 19:47, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Did you take a look at WP:REUSE? – ukexpat (talk) 19:59, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Image linking

The age-old concept of turning an image into a wikilink still eludes me. How is it done, and how do I do it? Enlighten me! a little insignificant 20:20, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

See the links under WP:EIW#Clickable. --Teratornis (talk) 20:52, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

You simply need to place a colon at the beginning of the link. Thus, [[:Image:Example.jpg]] renders Image:Example.jpg (this can also be piped, like any other wikilink). TNXMan 13:53, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Jay Adams

This is from Jay Adams and concerns Nouthetic Counseling. What is wrong is the listing of organizations supposedly associated with our view. Some, such as Niel Anderson, are quite different. Some might like to be, but really aren't. Moreover, there are many more books available--over 100--so your listing is small. A complete list may be obtained from Timeless Texts. I would be happy to correspond with your editors concerning any matter relating to the entry. Thank you, Jay Adams —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.116.129.246 (talk) 20:21, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. You might want to bring this up on the article's talk page instead. a little insignificant 20:37, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia font displayed hard to read

Hi, after formating my Laptop the wikipedia seems to be the only webpage i cant seem to read ok. The page loads correctly but the font it's quite unreadable, manuscript type. Is there any missing fonts i should install? or did you guys changed your fonts? articles look readable when they show on search engines, but as soon as i enter the wikipedia they all turn to this font. Thanks in advance —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.231.117.78 (talk) 21:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not specify what font text should be displayed in. Instead, it tells your browser to use its default sans-serif font. If your browser's sans-serif font is set to something unreadable, you should change the setting. Algebraist 21:28, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] A Bay Area philosifer said:

I wouldn't want to be within 100 miles ofr a Major Metropolitan area when the welfare checks bounce. "Who was that man? 22:23, 3 July 2009 (UTC)198.69.252.74 (talk)

Have you tried the Miscellaneous section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. Xenon54 (talk) 22:38, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

And be sure to specify the bay. On Wikipedia you communicate with strangers around the world. I would probably assume, due to my U.S. bias, that you refer to the San Francisco Bay Area, but that would only be a guess. --Teratornis (talk) 02:40, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] July 4

italian cruis ship msaugustas —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.116.183.111 (talk) 01:55, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

What exactly are you asking? Fingerz 02:07, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

We have an MS Augustus article. Does it answer whatever question you are not asking? --Teratornis (talk) 02:35, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Article Searchability

Why is it when I search for my article on Wikipedia, it does scroll down as I'm typing the name in the search engine? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Philippe Laguerre (talk • contribs) 06:05, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

As you enter text in the search box, it may auto-fill the box. This may be done by Wikipedia or by your browser. By default, Wikipedia will show a list of suggestions based on the entered text. To disable this you must have an account and must be logged in. Go to Special:Preferences, select the Search tab, check the box by 'Disable AJAX suggestions' and click the Save button at the bottom.

When the search suggestions are disabled, your browser may keep a history of searches or may auto-fill— these may be cleared through a browser option:

• Internet Explorer 7: Tools → Internet Options → General → Delete → Form Data → Delete Forms → Yes
• Firefox 3: Tools → Clear Private Data → Saved Form and Search History → Clear Private Data Now
• Safari: Edit → Preferences → AutoFill → Edit → Other Forms; remove Wikipedia from the list

AJAX suggestions may be temporarily disabled if the servers exhibit performance issues.

---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 06:08, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] credit card fraud

one of my friends has had £750 taken from his bank,so he informed his bank about this and they said they would look into it when they got back to him they said they will not refund the money because the original card was used, but his card was sitting at his home is it possible for them to know it was a proper card or a copied card that was used on his account please, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.16.116 (talk) 09:12, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 09:41, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] PNG better than SVG if the logo is copyrighted ?

Months ago I've created this File:Luton Town.svg to replace the PNG version logo for Luton Town F.C., suddenly yesterday user Jappalang changed it back to PNG. The reason for the change can be found here – Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Luton Town F.C./archive1. As far as I know it violates WP:Logo & NFCC. As for now I've changed the article logo back to SVG, please do correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks. Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 10:16, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

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[edit] Trouble with FaQ and sandboxes

Ok, so the FAQ and help pages are both completely useless.

I can't find the sandbox to lay out the article I want to write, nor can I figure out how to publish anything other than an edit. The FaQ tells me I need to be logged in to create a new page, but since I am logged in, it's no help whatsoever.

Any help? Thanks. Nicko9000 (talk) 10:45, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you think they are useless! I've created a sandbox for you in your user space, User:Nicko9000/sandbox. You can make edits there and save them, and then when you are ready, you can use the "move" tab at the top of the page to move the article into article space. You can read WP:MOVE for more information on moving pages. Hope that helps, ask if you need any further information. Maedin\^talk 10:59, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Did you read the links given in the FAQ? They describe in detail how to create a page, and those instructions are the ones we can give here too. Anyway, here are the standard instructions:

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation.

As for the sandbox; the wikipedia sandbox is here, but you might want to create a personal sandbox like User:Nicko9000/sandbox (you can replace "sandbox" with the title of the article you intend to create) to create an article draft. Just click on the link, edit the page and save - that's all there is to it. Chamal ^talk 11:02, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] saving options

how to save a file from wikipaedia to the computer? --122.174.66.205 (talk) 11:08, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

You can do this in a number of ways.

To save an article or another page in Wikipedia

• Use your browser's "Save As" function, usually found in the "File" menu.
• Save a PDF version by clicking the link on any Wikipedia page, usually found in the column on the left-hand side.
• User Special:Export to save pages in XML or save a number of pages in a category

To save an image from Wikipedia

• Right-click on the image, and choose your browser's "Save Image As" or "Save Picture as" function

To save a sound file

• Right-click on the link and choose "Save link as", "Save target as" or a similar option (depending on your internet browser). You will need a media player capable of reading Ogg files.

If you intend you use Wikipedia content for other purposes, you might like to read WP:REUSE which explains the licensing issues involved. --Kateshortforbob 12:18, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] color in content

how do I highlight a name or reference in blue? I like the use of it, but can't figure out how to do it.slolsen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slolsen (talk • contribs)

You're probably talking about making it a link, which will make it blue. You do this by placing [[ and ]] around what you want linked. See WP:Wikilinks. hmwithτ 16:33, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

If you're new to Wikipedia editing, try working through WP:TUTORIAL. And keep WP:CHEAT handy. You can add links to your User page so you can easily get back to help pages you found useful. --Teratornis (talk) 17:29, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Using a Social Network site in External Links.

I can understand not normally including social network sites in the External Links section due to the potential flood of links that could be added. My question is, would the case be different when the organization of topic is using a social network site as a web presence site and recognizes the site as representing their organization? (Maybe the social site in question is the only web presence they have.) The external link would convey information such as history, schedules, contact information and direct links to media that would be of interest to Wikipedia users that follow organizations such as the one listed below. Also, if in this case the link could be used, is there a way that the link should be tagged so that an editor would not automatically reject the link? (example of page utilizing a social media site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwind_Drum_and_Bugle_Corps) --17:31, 4 July 2009 (UTC)~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chopman001 (talk • contribs)

SN sites can be used in the external link section if the linked page is maintained officially by the group.(see [4])

However, the references used to cite their history and all should be independent — such as news stories. If no reliable sources are used then the article may be listed for deletion on notability grounds. --59.95.108.155 (talk) 17:52, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see XLinkBot reverted the link to their Myspace site: [5]. Not sure what to advise here. Dougweller (talk) 18:32, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Process

If I want to add a name to a list already on here, what must happen for the name to be added? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monsterrunner (talk • contribs) 18:15, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

First of all, you should make sure the name you're adding is notable and fits encyclopedic guidelines. Then go to the page containing the list and click the "edit" tab. The box you see contains the syntax of the page. Just add the name to the appropriate list, following the format of the rest of the list. Then press the button that says "save page" under the edit box.

Many new users confuse lists and categories. If it's a category then a name can only be added if there is an article with that name. See Help:Category. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:26, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Searching for or linking to "wiki:foo" redirects to a blank page at c2.com

A few days ago I wanted to search for something in the Wikipedia namespace, but mistyped it as wiki: instead of Wikipedia: in the search bar. I got redirected to a blank page on c2.com which looks like some sort of hijack. Here's an example: wiki:foo

What's going on here? Is this intended? What's the possible purpose of this? --RabidDeity (talk) 20:12, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

It seems to be intended. See the Interwiki map. Xenon54 (talk) 20:15, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, definitely intended. WikiWikiWeb at c2.com was the first wiki. There is a discussion at meta:Talk:Interwiki map#wiki:. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:30, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Filth embedded in document

Please check this following page and kindly get it off line http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grass_Mud_Horse ~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.49.50.142 (talk) 21:42, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

What's wrong with it? Algebraist 21:45, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

If you are referring to the profanity used in the article, then please note that Wikipedia is not censored. Xenon54 (talk) 22:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting my Wikipedia account

Is there any way to delete your own Wikipedia account? Spongebob Forever3116 (talk) 23:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)Spongebob Forever3116

No. Algebraist 23:04, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

But you have a right to vanish. See WP:RTV. hmwithτ 00:29, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Why doesn't my new page here come up when I type in its subject?

I'm a brand new editor with a new account and I put in a couple of paragraphs about "narcissexual". The page came up with the heading "User_Originator/Narcissexual". When I do a search for "narcissexual" my page does not come up though. My page doesn't come up at all under any search! What am I not doing? I can be contacted at <email removed>.

User Originator —Preceding unsigned comment added by User Originator (talk • contribs) 23:04, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

For your security, I removed your email address. We do not reply via email, and this page is highly visible across the Internet. (For convenience of other responders a link to your page is User:User Originator/Narcissexual.) —teb728 t c 23:31, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Because your essay is User space, not in Article space, the search feature will not find it unless the searching user explicitly asks for a search of User space. But if your essay were in Article space, it would be speedily deleted, because it is an unencyclopedic personal essay, because it appears to be original research, because it does not assert the notability of the subject, and because it is not verifiable with citations to reliable sources. Sorry.

See Wikipedia:Your first article for general help on creating an article. —teb728 t c 00:00, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] July 5

[edit] Writing a New Article

I'm so confused about making an article. I don't know how to make it look like all the other articles. the help tutorials confuse me so bad. i want to write about a christian band called the jason lovins band. I defninitely feel it should exist. if i could have some basic steps that would be very nice of wikipedia. thank you. Satanwilldie (talk) 01:41, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Algebraist 01:42, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

First, remember the most important thing in any article is THE REFERENCES. Without them, your article might face dangerous consequences. There are many ways of citing references, but the simplest is to use the <ref></ref> tag. You must also remember to add {{reflist}} or </references> at the references section.

You may develop your article in your own user space before presenting it to everybody.

Secondly, remember to add links. Your article must link to lots of other articles, and lots of other articles must link to yours. Otherwise, you will end up having an orphaned article.

Thirdly, remember to add infoboxes. Infoboxes are very helpful because they put the most important info of an article inside.

Lastly, remember to make it look like other articles. I've once seen an article that doesn't use the ==Section== code, and use horizontal lines between sections instead. DO NOT TRY THIS. You must wikify your article properly.

Good luck! All the best, Kayau (Talk to me! See what I've done! Sign my guestbook!) 03:48, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Retrieving articles

I code an Eggdrop bot for IRC, and we are working having it return searches from inside IRC. When I send for a webpage on en.wikipedia.org, I get a webpage back that gives the following error output: <html><head> </head><body> <p>The document has moved <a href="http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Space">here</a>.</p> (And even if I try to go to that link, it returns the same link) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Callcentermonkey (talk • contribs) 05:45, 5 July 2009 (UTC) When I retrieve with my web browser, it works fine.

Any suggestions on what I may be doing incorrectly?

--Callcentermonkey (talk) 05:40, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

You may want to ask at the technical village pump. The only reason I can think up of for the error is incorrect program code. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 06:22, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I'll ask over there; I don't suspect the code, because it works with Yahoo's weather, and CNN's news feeds. Doesn't rule it out, but you can understand why I suspect otherwise :) --Callcentermonkey (talk) 07:19, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] how do i write in here

how do i write in here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.65.3.30 (talk) 06:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

See WP:EDIT. On your other post, which has been removed; we can only answer questions on using Wikipedia on this page, we can't provide solutions to your personal problems. Chamal ^talk 06:46, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

i dont get it how do i make title in talk box —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.65.3.30 (talk) 07:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Check this page. Jacek Kendysz 13:41, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] I had IntrudersAlert from bonzi.com years ago and had lost it by now disposing of my PC.

i'm using public computer now. i had owned PC in 2003 with IA on by purchase untill April 27 or so 2004. i had to sell the computer before expiration date. i wrote about it on emails by public computers at the times when did. i didn't use the data from software against others except for once when informing ISP about intruder by phone. i had BonziBuddy on computer too. Then it was not attainable anymore when in 2005 i bought newly computer privately honestly for personal use only bt failed this too. i wrote recently to some sites that had known me from on computer. Last week to surfsecret.com, i had PrivacyProtector then. i disposed of pc about last year(i think it was netvission or bezequint.net.il that i tel. to about intruder then and it was from Europe) I'm sure it is that intentional schemes troublesome malice at me and unreason relentlessly plotted persists and schemed) i had BonziBuddy Gold once only to notice corruptions file on by unknown controlls from outside functions, sources unknown to me and not familiar). i'm innocently if some partitions were on the computer/s i bought years ago though not knowing that before then. I don't have private comm. line comm. but address i was allowed to submit is here: eyun1@walla.co.il. i shouldn't expect replies nor do i want to involve others innocent people with my troubles though had been at sometimes.) i missed Bonzi. i don't have PC now. i once on owned computer i think in 2008 had won prize but was afraid to submit my details for collecting money on the computer i had) i was reg. in pogo.com then too, and had PCBugDoctor on PC) i had email address [removed]) Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.90.5.202 (talk) 08:08, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 09:01, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] IE8 issues

Hi, I recently upgraded my browser from IE7 to IE8, and have found it has adversely affected the functionality of wikipedia. When i edit an article or page, such as this, there is a small lag between when i type and when the words appear on the screen, and more annoyingly when i copy and paste things into wikipedia edit boxes the centering of my screen jumps around all over the place. any ideas how to solve this? it's really bugging me and making me not want to edit!! 140.247.251.65 (talk) 13:34, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, can't you switch to another browser, e.g. Opera? It is much more better than IE. Jacek Kendysz 13:38, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Invincible "Reference Section"

I have just added three new references on my article. I have followed the usual referencing code for my footnotes, however, my "Reference Section" is blocked and I could not access to edit it. My references on the "Reference Section" are not visible either. Would you please help me access my reference section so that i can re-arrange my new footnotes "numerals". Thank you for your kind attention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Palengkero (talk • contribs) 13:42, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

The order the references appear in the references section depend on the order they appear in the article. For example, "Ismael Mathay Sr. High School: A Historical Perspective, George Magno Prado, January 8, 2005." appears first because it is the first reference that appears in the article. Theleftorium 13:46, 5 July 2009 (UTC)